Saturday, April 13, 2019

A "SMOKING GUN" SHOULDN'T BE NECESSARY TO BRING DOWN DONALD TRUMP...BUT WE PROBABLY WILL NEED IT

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     Combined with general facts - yes, they are facts - along with my personal opinions, today's column focuses, in part, on a bit of United States history too.  Donald Trump and any Trump Republicans or other Trump cheerleaders should pay close attention to this editorial, as should Democrats and everyone else who opposes the current Oval Office occupant.

     On August 5th, 1974, the American public was privy to what had been a secret tape, which was clandestinely recorded by President Richard Nixon.  It was a tape that was recorded six days after the June 17th break-in by five men at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate complex in Washington, DC.  On that tape, Americans were able to hear the president of the United States give an order where he broke the law. Thus, Mr. Nixon proved to our country and to the world that he was indeed "a crook."  Although President Nixon had nothing to do with the Watergate break-in, nor did he have any knowledge about it until after the fact, Mr. Nixon was involved in a cover-up of the crime, which was worse than the break-in itself.  That said, whether President Nixon was absolutely unaware of the break-in before it happened, or if Mr. Nixon himself ordered it, remains a mystery to some people, and it's a controversial subject among some politicians and historians.  But I tend to agree with conventional wisdom that President Nixon learned of the crime after the burglars were caught in the act.  But spearheading the cover-up is what eventually caused Mr. Nixon to resign the presidency in disgrace.  On June 23rd, 1972, President Nixon instructed White House Chief of Staff H. R. "Bob" Haldeman to have the C.I.A. block the F.B.I.'s investigation in to the attempted burglary at the Watergate office building.  In other words, Mr. Nixon dictated Haldeman to obstruct the investigation.  President Nixon's words on that tape were a crystal clear command and, in a sense, was his confession to obstruction of justice.

     Two days after he heard President Nixon's direction, Republican Congressman Barber Conable - who was a longtime ally of Mr. Nixon - reviewed the complete transcript of the tape and famously remarked that the recording "looked like a smoking gun."  GOP support for the 36th president quickly evaporated on Capitol Hill.  Three top Republicans - Senator Barry Goldwater of Arizona (center in the photo), who was the Republican nominee for president in 1964, but was defeated in 

a landslide by the incumbent President Lyndon Baines Johnson... Senate Minority Leader Hugh Scott of Pennsylvania (left in the photo)...and House Minority Leader John Rhodes of Arizona (right in the photo) - took the short journey down Pennsylvania Avenue to inform President Nixon that a majority of the House of Representatives were ready to impeach and, from the Senate, at least 67 of the 100 senators would vote to convict and remove him from office.  In fact, Senator Goldwater and Senator Scott informed President Nixon that fewer than 15 senators were willing to even consider acquittal.  In other words, his goose was cooked.

     On the evening of August 8th, in a televised speech, Richard Nixon addressed the nation and announced, "I shall resign the presidency, effective  

at noon tomorrow." Vice President Gerald Ford was sworn in as our 37th president at noon on August 9th.

     But here's the kicker.  Prior to the infamous tape becoming public, the House Judiciary Committee - including support by some Republicans - had already voted in favor of three Articles of Impeachment.  That audio recording was the icing on the cake, but the decision to impeach President Nixon had previously been on the minds of numerous Members of Congress, be them Democrats or Republicans.  The portrait had been painted of an American president who had abused his presidential power.

     The outcome for Richard Nixon's presidency - his forced resignation - was the result not only of that tape recording, but many months of investigations by the U.S. Congress and by a special prosecutor, not to mention the journalistic efforts by The Washington Post's Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein.  When all was said and done, there was enough witness testimony and documentary evidence to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that President Nixon was guilty of criminal activity.  And although the "smoking gun" fired the bullet that would bring death to the Nixon presidency, we cannot ignore everything else that was discovered beforehand, over more than a two-year period.

     America shouldn't need "a Perry Mason" to present that "smoking gun" at the end of a crime drama, when obviously there are enough facts for a jury to determine guilt or innocence.  But since I doubt that Donald Trump will break down and admit to the crimes that Democrats and so many legal and constitutional scholars have alleged he has committed - as a result of the plethora of evidence staring in our faces - the Congress of 2019 is probably going to need a "smoking gun" before they can do to him what the Congress of 1974 did to Richard Nixon.

     I was counting on Special Counsel Robert Mueller to find that "smoking gun," and maybe he already has, but we just don't know it yet.  Maybe that's why Attorney General William Barr kept his cards so close to his vest and wasn't about to show them to anybody when he testified under oath before the House Appropriations Committee on Tuesday, April 9th, 2019 and when he did the same, in sworn testimony before the Senate Appropriations Committee on Wednesday, April 10th.  Therefore, it is imperative that Congress and the American people are able to read the entire Mueller Report. 

     One has to sit back and wonder why the chief law enforcement officer of our land would go before Congress and accuse the federal government of "spying" on a political candidate and his campaign.  But Attorney General Barr, on April 10th, was

asked by Senator Jeanne Shaheen, Democrat from New Hampshire, "You're not suggesting that spying occurred?"  After a brief pause, Barr articulated 

with crisp certainty, "I think spying did occur."  But later on in the hearing, Senator Brian Schatz, Democrat from Hawaii, wanted to give Barr a chance to clarify his "unnecessarily inflammatory" remark because, as Schatz emphasized, "the word spying 
could cause everybody in the cable news ecosystem to freak out."  Barr's reply was rather strange to say the least.  "I'm not sure of all the connotations of that word." The attorney general of the United States doesn't know the precise definition of the word "spying" or how Congress and the American people are going to perceive what Barr means by the use of that word?  Really?  Seriously?  But Barr tried to walk back his original testimony by saying, "I want to make sure there was no unauthorized surveillance."  Sorry Bill, but you can't unscramble the egg.

     Generally speaking, when people think of "spying," they envision fictitious characters like Napoleon Solo and Illya Kuryakin of U.N.C.L.E., not special agents of the F.B.I.  "Spying" takes on a sinister connotation of espionage and other nefarious actions. According to Dictionary.com, a spy is "a person employed by a government to obtain secret information or intelligence about another, usually hostile, country." And Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines spy as "one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information; a person employed by one nation to secretly convey classified information of strategic importance to another nation; a person who conveys the trade secrets of one company to another."  There is no evidence whatsoever of any "spying" of Donald Trump or his campaign by the F.B.I., the C.I.A., or any other U.S. intelligence

agency, or anyone else for that matter, who was covered under the umbrella of President Barack Obama's administration.  FISA warrants are court authorized documents that are signed by prosecutors or - in at least one case pertaining to the 

Russia investigation - by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and then by judges, as FISA warrants go through a rigorous process before being issued.  They are valid tools that prosecutors use in a criminal investigation, not "spying."  Attorney General Barr should know better - and I'm sure he does - that the Russia probe, before and with Robert Mueller, was and still is a lawful investigation. For Barr to label any part of it as "spying" is totally bogus.  But the attorney general is toeing not only the Republican line, but at the top of his list is the Trump line, when it should be the people's line. 

     At The White House on Thursday, April 11th, Trump applauded Barr's comments as he wholeheartedly agreed with the attorney general.  "I think what he said was absolutely true.  There was absolutely spying in to my campaign.  I'll go a step further. In my opinion it was illegal spying, unprecedented spying, and something that should never be allowed to happen in our country again.  And I think his answer was actually a very accurate one."

     Democrats were flabbergasted - if not angry, and rightfully so - by Barr's "spying" reference. Senator Chuck Schumer, Democrat from New York and the Senate Minority Leader, told reporters on April 11th that Barr's notion that Trump and his campaign were spied upon has "just destroyed the scintilla of credibility he had left." In the Senate's sister chamber, 

Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, Democrat from California, did not mince words when she was interviewed by The Associated Press on April 10th. "I don't trust Barr.  I trust Mueller."  Speaker Pelosi also noted that Barr is "not the attorney general of Donald Trump.  He is the attorney general of the United States."

         Why would William Barr make such an incendiary statement about "spying?" 

At the Senate Appropriations Committee hearing, Republican Senator Jerry Moran of Kansas was also curious. But Barr's answer is not one that I accept, and neither does much of Congress and probably most of America.  "There is a basis for my concern," Barr told Moran in a definitive tone, "but I'm not going to discuss the basis." 

     Barr's evasive attitude is another of the many reasons why he needs to provide the full, unredacted report by Special Counsel Mueller to Congress.  America's lawmakers must continue to insist that the entire word for word document be delivered to Congress, exactly how Mueller wrote it. House of Representatives Democrats had given Barr an April 2nd deadline to submit the full report, but Barr snubbed our legislative branch of government with disdain.

     Let me remind my readers - as I wrote in my Saturday, April 6th column, "As attorney general, William Barr works for us...for you...and for me.  And so does Special Counsel Robert Mueller.  Barr's job is not to protect Donald Trump.  It's to protect the U.S. Constitution and the American people.  Congress must demand transparency and full disclosure from the Department of Justice.  After all, on March 14th a House resolution passed by a unanimous, bipartisan vote of 420 to 0 that called for 'a full release' of all of Mueller's findings, and that means not only his report, but every file, every note, every shred of evidence.  Unless it affects the national security of our country, there can be no secrets.  Absolutely nothing should be concealed.  Otherwise...the stench of a cover-up will linger on for decades to come."

     Representative Jerry Nadler, Democrat from New York, continues to threaten Attorney General Barr - as he should do - that Congress will issue a subpoena for the full, unredacted Mueller Report.  On Wednesday, April 3rd, Nadler's House Judiciary Committee voted along party lines to authorize the chairman to issue said report.  Chairman Nadler says, if necessary, he is willing to take the issue of the Mueller Report to the U.S. Supreme Court.  Barr has announced that he will deliver the report to Congress by this upcoming week, but he sounds like much of it will be blackened.  Some legal experts have predicted that more than half of the report will be redacted, especially all grand jury materials, including witness testimonies.

     There is precedent in U.S. history when grand jury testimonies have been disclosed. I also wrote the following in my April 6th editorial, but it's worth repeating here because Attorney General Barr is either ignorant to the facts or he believes that most people are oblivious to the truth. However, Americans are more sophisticated and more learned than Barr might think.  "It should be remembered that with the Watergate investigation, Judge John Sirica overruled grand jury secrecy and gave testimonies by witnesses to Congress.  The same should happen with the Mueller Report."  That was 1974 and the House Judiciary Committee had already begun proceedings to impeach President Richard Nixon.  

     On Friday, April 12th, I was listening to part of Sean Hannity's radio show.  It's always productive to find out what lies the opposition is telling, and Hannity told a whopper.  He said it's "illegal" to release any grand jury testimony.  Hannity is wrong. It is not "illegal."  Dictionary.com defines "illegal" as "forbidden by law or statute."  If something is "forbidden," it should not be allowed.  Therefore, something cannot be considered "illegal" - or against the law - if a judge can circumvent that law with a stroke of a pen.  Others will debate my logic, but if a judge can ignore a law - specifically Rule 6(e) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure - then such a law cannot be 100 percent "illegal."  If it was always "illegal" to release grand jury materials, then Congress would have never seen or heard such testimonies during Watergate.  

     But on Friday, April 5th, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled in the case of McKeever v. Barr.  In a divided decision, the judges ruled that a district court does not have the inherent authority to release grand jury information. But there is a silver lining for Democrats, as there are provisions where Rule 6(e) can basically be tossed into the trash.  Barbara McQuade is a University of Michigan law professor, a former U.S. attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan, and a MSNBC legal analyst.  McQuade was interviewed by the online publication, WHO.WHAT.WHY. and she makes an optimistic observation that the House Judiciary Committee should still be able to obtain grand jury information.  Under legal rules that oversee the disclosure of grand jury materials, McQuade notes that elements from a grand jury can be shared with another grand jury or in connection with another judicial proceeding.  In 1974, in the case of Haldeman v. Sirica, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the DC Circuit ruled that it was lawful for the House Judiciary Committee to receive grand jury information because the committee was "acting as a grand jury in an impeachment proceeding."  McQuade also points out that the 2019 committee would not have to actually vote to impeach Donald Trump.  House Judiciary representatives have the "responsibility to impeach," so therefore those Members of Congress need access to grand jury materials before they can decide on moving forward with impeachment.  

     By Attorney General Barr giving a thumbs down to requesting a judge to release grand jury information and testimonies, that's all the ammunition Congressman Nadler needed to push him in to opening an impeachment inquiry in to Trump, which I believe is what's coming next.  And with a subpoena for the Mueller Report in his pocket, a judge is likely to grant the full, unredacted report to be given to Congress, including the secret grand jury materials.

     Meanwhile, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Representative Adam Schiff, Democrat from California, told 

MSNBC's Chris Hayes on his All In program on April 9th that getting the entire Mueller Report without any redactions is "priority" one for Democrats.  "We're going to insist on it.  We have the right to see that information...and, at the end of the day, there is a provision within the grand jury rules to provide that to Congress.  We have seen that provision used in the past.  We've seen the same Justice Department, just last year, decide that the interest of transparency outweigh the interest of third parties who were not indicted."  And Congressman Schiff firmly stated, "Our first priority is getting the fully, unredacted report...and I think it's most essential that the public get to see the product of Bob Mueller's work."

     As Attorney General Barr accused the Obama administration of "spying," Donald Trump catapulted his evil hate to a higher level on April 10th.  Trump's viciousness soared into the stratosphere when he called Mueller's investigation in to Russian interference in our 2016 election as "an attempted coup."  Trump told reporters outside The White House that "It was an illegal investigation.  It was started illegally. Everything about it was crooked.  Every single thing about it."  Trump continued with his vulgarity.  "This was an attempted take-down of a president and we beat them. We beat them.  So the Mueller Report, when they talk about obstruction, we fight back.  You know why we fight back?  Because I knew how illegal this whole thing was.  It was a scam."  And Trump's venom got even worse.  "What they did was treason.  What they did was terrible.  What they did was against our Constitution and everything we stand for." 

     Donald Trump is out of control.  To accuse Robert Mueller and his team of investigators of "treason" is beyond repugnant and beyond reprehensible.  There was nothing "illegal" about the Mueller probe.  It is exactly what our Founding Fathers would expect to be done when there are serious allegations that the president committed a crime.  But Donald Trump has gone off the deep end.  His explosive behavior is merely Trump thinking that if he is vile and wicked enough, he just might convince other voters - besides his base - that he, Trump, is an innocent victim... when in reality, he's the one who has actually broken the laws.  So let me clue you in, Donald.  When it comes to this investigation, you haven't beaten anybody yet... and my money is on Congress that you never will. 

     And that's The Controversy for today.

     I'm Gary B. Duglin.

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12 comments:

  1. I’m going to start with the fact that it is really funny that you and the left wing conspiracy nuts want AG Barr to do what you guys hated Jim Comey for doing. Comey laid out all the evidence against Clinton and then said we are not going to indict her, she broke plenty of laws and got away with it. With President Trump we have not seen any evidence of him committing any crimes and you want Barr to release Grand Jury testimony on people that didn’t do anything illegal, all for political reasons. The bottom line is Clinton broke the laws and was called out on it but not indicted, President Trump didn’t break the law (from all evidence so far presented) and you want all testimony released so you and the left can try and spin it and impeach him. Please stop with the Nixon stuff it has no relevance in this case, Nixon was a crook and broke the law, if anything Hillary was closer to Nixon then President Trump. Attorney General Barr was 100% correct calling out that there was spying. I will quote you, quoting “Merriam-Webster Dictionary defines spy as "one who keeps secret watch on a person or thing to obtain information,” what do you think the FBI was doing, were they keeping it secret, yes they were. Were they secretly watching people to obtain information? That’s spying, it may have been legal spying maybe not but that is what the IG and now the AG is going to find out. As for your statement “But the attorney general is toeing not only the Republican line, but at the top of his list is the Trump line, when it should be the people's line,” you are wrong the AG’s job is not to “toe” anyone’s line, he is to investigate and present the facts if that backs the President or the GOP or “the people’s line” it doesn’t matter as long as it is backed up by the facts. You can quote Adan Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Barbara McQuade or any other hater you want but that won’t change the law until the US Supreme Court rules on it the law is the law. Until then (if it happens) all you haters looking for revenge for the 2016 election will have to sit and wait. Just a little salt in your wound last week the Pentagon announced it issued $1,000,000,000 worth of new contracts to construct “NEW” border wall.

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  2. My response to the above reader's comments will be in three parts.

    PART ONE OF THREE

    Wayne, you don't seem to get it...and tragically, you never will. The people of the United States of America not only deserve, but we have the right to see the Mueller Report because we have the right to know if the man who is the temporary occupant of The Oval Office is a crook.

    Your comments are mere drivel. You spew your venom about Hillary Clinton and make false statements. When James Comey was F.B.I. director, he broke Department of Justice protocol by issuing his letter to Congress less than 60 days before an election. Here are the facts as quoted by Snopes. "In August 2008, President George W. Bush’s attorney general, Michael Mukasey, sent an internal memo entitled 'election year sensitivities' to employees on the department’s policies on political activities. Part of it reads: 'Simply put, politics must play no role in the decisions of federal investigators or prosecutors regarding any investigations or criminal charges. Law enforcement officers and prosecutors may never select the timing of investigative steps or criminal charges for the purpose of affecting any election, or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party. Such a purpose is inconsistent with the Department's mission and with the Principles of Federal Prosecution.' Attorney General Eric Holder resent the memo in March 2012. While the memos don’t discuss limitation of timing specifically, former U.S. attorneys have alluded to an unwritten guideline about not filing cases or commenting on investigations in the 60 days before an election."

    GBD

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    As for the full report Comey gave - live on television - after the F.B.I. had completed its investigation in to Secretary Clinton, Comey gave facts that were coupled with his opinion. It was not up to him to give an "opinion." The F.B.I. determined that Mrs. Clinton did not break the law. The F.B.I. determined to not recommend criminal charges against Mrs. Clinton because of her use of a private email server while she was secretary of state. Comey gave an opinion - not based on facts - when he called Secretary Clinton "extremely careless." But Comey said that to justifiably charge Mrs. Clinton would require with "evidence" that the former secretary of state "intentionally transmitted or willfully mishandled classified information." Comey said that the F.B.I. found neither and, therefore, Comey explained that "our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case." Comey informed the country of that fact. But we have not heard Special Counsel Robert Mueller make such a statement about Donald Trump. In fact, quite the contrary, since Mueller is quoted in Attorney General William Barr's 4-page summary letter on March 24th, 2019 that Mueller said..."While this report does not conclude that (Donald Trump) committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him." That's a big difference than what Comey said about Hillary Clinton. Comey straight out said there is no reason to charge Mrs. Clinton because the evidence proves that she did not break the law. Your remark, Wayne, about Secretary Clinton is another of your big fat lies that "she broke plenty of laws and got away with it." That is totally untrue. Stop lying about Hillary Clinton. As for Trump, Mueller isn't saying - according to Barr's letter - that Trump broke the law, but he's not saying that Trump didn't break the law. So for Barr to state "no collusion" and "no obstruction," is false. Congress, the media, and the entire population of our country must be able to read the entire unredacted Mueller Report, just as we did with Richard Nixon. Read my column from April 6th, 2019, FOULMOUTHED DONALD TRUMP HURLS "BULLSH*T" AT DEMOCRATS AND THE INTEGRITY OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL IS QUESTIONED BY SOME MUELLER INVESTIGATORS at http://www.thecontroversy.net/2019/04/foulmouthed-donald-trump-hurls-bullsht.html as I lay out more and more facts. Yes Wayne...facts. But as I also wrote in this week's column, "I was counting on Special Counsel Robert Mueller to find that 'smoking gun,' and maybe he already has, but we just don't know it yet. Maybe that's why Attorney General William Barr kept his cards so close to his vest and wasn't about to show them to anybody when he testified under oath before the House Appropriations Committee on Tuesday, April 9th, 2019 and when he did the same, in sworn testimony before the Senate Appropriations Committee on Wednesday, April 10th. Therefore, it is imperative that Congress and the American people are able to read the entire Mueller Report." Wayne, when you make a statement about Donald Trump like, "we have not seen any evidence of him committing any crimes and you want Barr to release Grand Jury testimony on people that didn’t do anything illegal, all for political reasons" then prove it. That's why - according to a recent Quinnipiac poll - 84 percent of all Americans want the entire report released to the public. Democrats overall do not want to "spin" the Mueller Report just so we can "impeach" Trump. We want to know the truth, and then, if Trump is guilty of crimes, yes, we would want Trump impeached, convicted and removed from office. But at least show us all of the facts from the Mueller investigation. After a 22-month probe, Americans have the right to know.

    GBD

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    I've already discussed "spying" in my column. The nefarious connotation of the word "spying" is not one that the F.B.I. does without legal authorization. The F.B.I. had legal authorization with FISA warrants. No need for me to comment further because Barr should have never used the word "spying." He was clearly NOT 100 percent correct.

    Once again, you are wrong, Wayne, so don't try to spin my words to your liking. The attorney general of the United States is to protect and defend the U.S. Constitution and to do the same for the American people. The A.G. is NOT the president's lawyer, and that's what William Barr has been doing by protecting Trump's butt. My statement is right on the money that "the attorney general is toeing not only the Republican line, but at the top of his list is the Trump line, when it should be the people's line."

    And there it is. You can't seem to respond to any of my columns, Wayne, without using the "H" word. No...not Hillary...but "hate." Why must you always accuse honorable Americans like Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler and Barbara McQuade as "hater(s)?" Democrats are not "looking for revenge for the 2016 election." We just want to know if Donald Trump obstructed justice and if he conspired to collude with Russia, or if he broke any other laws.

    As for your final comment, which had nothing to do with my column above. I remain firm on the statement I have made for more than three-and-a-half years since Trump first mentioned building a wall in his announcement that he was a candidate on June 16, 2015. THERE WILL NEVER BE A WALL ON THE U.S./MEXICO BORDER. And I will say it again. THERE WILL NEVER BE A WALL.

    GBD

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  5. First the left was and still is upset that Comey went public with statements like “Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case” Gary “violations of the statutes” is breaking the law, when a cop pulls you over for speeding but doesn’t write you a ticket it doesn’t make it that you weren’t doing 62 in a 55 zone, you broke the law. As for your quote of Comey’s statement “to justifiably charge Mrs. Clinton would require with "evidence" that the former secretary of state "intentionally transmitted or willfully mishandled classified information." That was Comey’s mistake, the Federal Law does not require intent or willful only “gross negligence” which Comey called it until Peter Strzok edited it out of Comey’s statement. Gary did you forget this is America when you said "then prove it,” in America we don’t have to prove our innocence. I’m sorry Gary I don’t believe you when you say all you want is the truth, how you can say that with a straight face makes me laugh. I agree the F.B.I. had legal authorization with FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign, the big question is did the F.B.I. and or the DOJ lie to the FISA Court to get those warrants? How high did it go? Who authorized the lies? Was the Clinton camp involved? Did President Obama know and when did he know it? Those are the questions I want answers to. As for the wall the DOD signed contracts and some are saying the construction could start by summer.

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  6. My response to the above reader's comments will be in three parts.

    PART ONE OF THREE

    Wayne, once again you leave out the important facts. The following is what James Comey actually said when - as F.B.I. director - he gave his report in a live, televised speech on July 5th, 2016. "Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past. In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here."

    Wayne, you seem to think that you know more about the law and more about America's justice system than the Department of Justice. And I don't mean just James Comey, but the entire Department of Justice. I don't think you know more than the DOJ. And even though I will always blame Comey for being a strong factor in why Hillary Clinton didn't win the presidency, I can still trust his knowledge about the law and the DOJ. So that's what I'm going to do. Comey and the Department of Justice decided that based on "similar situations" that were "handled in the past,"
    they could not "find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts," which were the "mishandling or removal of classified information." In other words...Hillary Clinton did NOT break the law.

    As for your comment that "in America we don't have to prove our innocence," the president of the United States - no matter what you may think - is held to a higher standard. But besides that, you and only 16 percent of the country agree with Donald Trump, William Barr and the other Trump cronies. All the remaining 84 percent of Americans want, is to hear from the man who spent our taxpayers' money for 22 months on an investigation that included the president of the United States as a subject. We have that right. And Representatives Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Elijah Cummings and others are not going to give up. If it means going to the U.S. Supreme Court, then they - and we, the American people - will do so. And I truly believe that the high court will side with the Democrats, as they have in the past with similar issues.

    GBD

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  7. PART TWO OF THREE

    Wayne, as for your remark about "gross negligence," and F.B.I. counterintelligence agent "Peter Strzok edit(ing)" Comey's statement...I want to remind you of what Comey said at the beginning of his July 5th, 2016 speech. "I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say." It was CNN that reported their correspondents interviewed a "U.S. official familiar with the matter" who claimed that "a group of people were part of the drafting process, using a red pen on Comey's statement before he publicly came forward." Another "source" told CNN that "electronic records" revealed that Strzok changed the language from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless." But what you and others don't seem to understand, Wayne, is that whether Comey had anyone read early drafts of his statement, Comey testified under oath before Congress that he and "only" he saw the speech that he actually made to the public. Therefore, think logically, Wayne, and I wish others would too, that if Comey - as F.B.I. director - really wanted to say "grossly negligent," he would have said "grossly negligent." Comey knew before he made the statement - live on national TV - what he was going to say, and Comey was an experienced attorney. When he stood before the cameras, if "grossly negligent" was something he wanted to go back to, he would have done it. Comey was the boss. He was the F.B.I. chief. Strzok worked for Comey. Besides, Strzok denies ever making such a change in an early draft of Comey's statement.

    GBD

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    Wayne, you don't have to believe me. I wouldn't think you would. But the fact of the matter is that I - and 84 percent of the American population want the truth. That IS what we want. If that truth proves that Trump is guilty of criminal activity, then he needs to be impeached, convicted and removed from office.

    You can believe that the Department of Justice lied to judges of the FISA court, but then I would say you are definitely on drugs. You're just echoing Donald Trump, Wayne, when he told reporters - in so many words - that he believes President Obama and others in The West Wing also lied. You can believe in such a conspiracy that involved President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and other high level Democrats...but you'd be wrong.

    And once again, you bring up a topic that has nothing to do with my column. But since you did it again, I will repeat myself, just so you can remember it clearly. THERE WILL NEVER BE A WALL.

    GBD

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  9. Gary as usual this will go nowhere. Just to correct you again. First it is not the Director of the FBI’s job to decide who to prosecute that is the job of the Prosecutors. Comey was wrong when he kept saying “intent” the federal law does not require intent just “gross negligence” that is a FACT! Comey should have turned it over to a US Attorney. Stop lumping me in with sound bites I want to see the report but also want the AG to protect National security and the innocent victims of the Mueller investigation. You quote lying Comey "I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say” which we know was a lie because Lisa Page former FBI lawyer and assistant to Andrew McCabe testified to Congress that the DOJ ordered the FBI not to consider a charge of “Gross Negligence.” For someone who claims you are looking for the truth aren’t you interested who gave that order and who knew about or approved the order? I Gary I never said that I believe that the Department of Justice lied to judges of the FISA court but I think it is a thing we need to look at and find the truth!

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  10. My response to the above reader's comments will be in three parts.

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    Wayne, Wayne, Wayne...it IS up to the F.B.I. or any law enforcement officer to decide whether someone should be arrested. And getting arrested, or as you say "charge(d)", can be the decision of that law enforcement officer. Let's say a person is driving 80 miles per hour in a 55 zone, a police officer CAN...I do say, CAN...decide on whether the driver should get a ticket or just get a warning. Granted, I'm not going to compare the magnitude of "gross negligent" allegations (of which their were none with Hillary Clinton) to a traffic ticket, but my metaphor is able to bury your comment. Therefore, you are NOT correcting me, but I'm correcting you. And remember, it was not JUST the director of the F.B.I. who made the decision. Remember what James Comey said in his statement, which I already quoted in an earlier response to you. "Comey and the Department of Justice decided that based on 'similar situations' that were 'handled in the past,' they could not 'find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts,' which were the 'mishandling or removal of classified information.' In other words...Hillary Clinton did NOT break the law."

    Democrat Ron Eachus is a columnist and former state legislator, and I agree with his observation and analysis, especially since it's very similar to comments I made as well in an earlier column. Eachus writes..."For starters, the line between 'extremely careless' and 'gross negligence' is drawn with a fine-point pen, or erasable pencil. Careless and negligent are basically synonyms in any dictionary or thesaurus. So, what then is the difference between extreme and gross? Extreme is severe. Not just high but very high. Gross, in this context, is more nuanced and more related to intent. Very serious, yes, but with more aspects of being very obvious, blatant and overt. Those are dictionary references. But there is also a legal definition of gross negligence. One legal dictionary defines it as 'a conscious and voluntary disregard of the need to use reasonable care, which is likely to cause foreseeable grave injury or harm to persons, property, or both.' Other law dictionaries vary slightly. One describes criminal gross negligence as the 'willful disregard to the rights of other people that results in possible or actual harm.' Previous prosecutions, including that of former C.I.A. director David Petraeus, involved 'clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information.' Comey did not find that to be the case in Clinton's handling of the emails, nor were there large quantities of materials exposed. She was very careless but not intentionally."

    You may remember, Wayne, when I used the same David Petraeus example in one of my earlier editorials. So Wayne...stop saying that something is FACT when it doesn't apply to Hillary Clinton. All it does is prove that your partisanship is more important than the truth. Comey didn't need to turn anything over to a U.S. attorney when the F.B.I. didn't believe Secretary Clinton broke the law. Period.

    GBD

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    There are precedents to show that grand jury materials and testimonies have been made public. Facts First fact-checked Donald Trump's tweets on Lisa Page's testimony. "Former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe also backed up Comey's account, further explaining in his book why the group of FBI officials involved agreed it was best to describe her conduct as 'extremely careless,' instead of the more legally damning phrase, 'grossly negligent,' since there was an agreement that her conduct did not rise to an indictable offense. Page makes clear in her testimony that Justice Department officials 'did not feel they could sustain a charge' against Clinton, but that 'nobody had a closed mind.' She does, however, also explain how other FBI officials nevertheless allegedly engaged in 'smack talk' against Clinton. 'I am aware of senior FBI officials talking to subordinate FBI officials on the Hillary Clinton investigative team who unquestionably had anti-Hillary sentiment, but who also said: 'You have to get her, or — again I don't have an exact quote — but like we're counting on you, you know,' Page testified. But Page explained those FBI officials were not directly involved in any decision-making about the Clinton investigation and it had no effect on the overall investigation result."

    GBD

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      On March 13, 2019, Donald Trump tweeted another of his lies. "The just revealed FBI Agent Lisa Page transcripts make the Obama Justice Department look exactly like it was, a broken and corrupt machine. Hopefully, justice will finally be served. Much more to come!" That's NOT what Lisa Page testified. Democratic Congressman Ted Lieu of California says Page's testimony did not in any way demonstrate wrongdoing or bias. "What Lisa Page said is that prosecutors decided who to charge. That's exactly how it's supposed to work." (But I still say that the F.B.I. can decide based on whether there is evidence or not). And Democratic Congressman David Cicilline of Rhode Island says, "It’s very disappointing to see members of Congress behaving more like the defense team for (Donald) Trump than independent members of an independent branch of government whose job it is to provide oversight."
      So Wayne, I do believe Comey when he stated on July 5th, 2016..."I have not coordinated or reviewed this statement in any way with the Department of Justice or any other part of the government. They do not know what I am about to say.” And I believe THAT is the TRUTH!

      GBD

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