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I have remained quiet lately about the 2016 Presidential race and have kept mum in criticizing the "clown car" of Republican candidates...despite the lunacy they have been spouting...especially the maniacal rubbish being spewed by the GOP front-runner, Donald Trump. From daily sound bites on cable and broadcast network newscasts to the Republican debates...the nonsensical jibber-jabber and drivel for which Trump and others have been regurgitating is nothing but entertaining. Entertaining because Trump and his comical competitors are so laughable. With apologies to the 1960s popular performer with the big red nose...the hostility and verbally combative clashes among the Republican "bozos" are generating grins from ear to ear by Democrats nationwide...especially - I would bet - by Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley.
If Aaron Sorkin - arguably Hollywood's best creator of political television shows and motion pictures - wrote a screenplay, which included some of the swill and stink that Donald Trump and other GOP candidates have spread around...I don't think most Americans would believe it. That being said...I'm amazed that so many Republicans throughout the United States have been sucked in by Trump, as if what he is speaking...is gospel - which, of course, it is not.
There is no doubt that ISIS is a monumental threat to the United States and could possibly be perilous to Americans. And yes, Democrats and Republicans agree that ISIS is a barbaric organization that needs to be destroyed. But we cannot point the finger at Muslims. There are millions of peace-loving Muslims throughout the world. They live in countries that have nothing to do with terrorism or the radicalized bastards of ISIS and Al-Qaeda, who want to annihilate Americans.
I am a Jew. And I am proud of my religion and my religious beliefs. And as a Jew...I know about bigotry. I'm personally familiar with anti-Semitism and the horrendous prejudice by others who detest me because I am Jewish.
Six-million of my Jewish brothers and sisters were slaughtered and gassed by the despicable and heinous lowlifes of Nazi Germany. And as we all know...because of the tyrannical dictatorship of Adolf Hitler...he instructed and mastered his elite troop of SS guards to imprison Jews in concentration death camps. Hitler ordered the massacre of Jews by using his anti-Semitic ideas and philosophies to spurn hatred all throughout Europe. And he convinced his followers that the Jewish people were responsible for Germany's economic problems. Hitler believed that Jews were inferior to all other humans...and as a result of his ignorance and his loathsome animosity...he commanded his SS military to totally exterminate and eliminate every Jew. I mention Adolf Hitler in this commentary not as a comparison to terrorism by ISIS and Al-Qaeda. Nothing in global history could be compared to the Holocaust. However, I reference Hitler to illustrate the prejudice which faced Jews during World War II...and now...the injustice that some Americans - including Donald Trump - support, which violates the rights of Muslims.
The United States of America - undoubtedly the majority of the planet Earth - will never allow another Holocaust. The persecution of Jews during World War II was a vile and vicious abomination by a malicious madman. There is no debate about that. At least, there shouldn't be. So, as a Jew, I could never attack Muslims - orally or in writing - as Donald Trump and others have recently. Muslims are not America's enemies. Their religion, their faith, their holy and sacred devotion...are not adversaries of the United States or the American population.
Donald Trump - and other Republicans who agree with his warped thinking - must stop going after Muslims and all of Islam. The U.S. has Muslims serving in Congress. We have Muslim school teachers, Muslim doctors, Muslim police officers and Muslim firefighters. Muslims live and work throughout our country. There are Muslims who are "the good, the bad and the ugly." But there are Christians, Jews and persons of other religions...who can be described in the same way. I shall also remind you that there are thousands of patriotic and brave Muslims who are wearing the American flag on the uniforms of our Armed Forces and serving our country with pride, dedication and loyalty.
Donald Trump - as well as certain Republican individuals throughout the United States - must leave Muslims alone. The radicals of ISIS and Al-Qaeda are terrorists. Not all American or non-American Muslims are terrorists. A ban of every Muslim is not the answer.
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I wish someone would write something interesting like how does the Koran clash with the US constitution, instead of all this politically correct mumbo jumbo.
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DeleteBeing a Jew Gary you should be ashamed of yourself for in ANY way comparing Trump to Adolf Hitler. Hitler killed 6 million of your brethren my friend. not to mention several million other people of all nationalities.. you minimize what that he did and denigrate the sufferings of his victims by doing this kind of thing. talk about low hanging rotten fruit. i noticed that you pretty much said nothing negative about the ones that are actually doing the beheadings rapes burnings and crucifixions. yes the ones that have actually stated that they want to "Exterminate" us. i wanted to post this here where people would read it. i love you bro and you are family but wtf!!??? Scott Getlin
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DeleteScott, you obviously didn't read my commentary carefully. I never compared Donald Trump to Adolf Hitler. So re-read what I wrote. In fact, I specify my reason for including Hitler in my column. After you do, I hope you will revise your comments. GBD
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Deletei read every word. his name and his picture and your commentary making the connection is what i responded to. why is he mentioned? why does his picture appear? maybe you could ask yourself those questions and then re read my remarks. Scott Getlin
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Deletealso maybe you could highlight any words of condemnation in your article for the people who are actually performing these horrific acts. the ones who state clearly that EXTERMINATION is THEIR goal. where are those words? this is what i mean by low hanging rotten fruit. Scott Getlin
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DeleteI read every word as well. Every DNC sound bite all rolled up in GBD drivel. March on to the Coronation, Gary and don't forget to kiss her ring! Joseph Percevecz
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DeleteGary you have just made my point AGAIN. Trump to Hitler re prejudice is absurd and wrong. still waiting for the word you used to condemn what these people are doing that has prompted all this. highlight the words for us of your condemnation towards those people. that's right you wrote none. but you'll condemn Trump as tho he's the evil in all of this. come bro i know you're smarter than that! Scott Getlin
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DeleteJoe...my column is not about Hillary Clinton. My only reference to her at all in my column was that she, Bernie Sanders and Martin O'Malley are likely to be happy that the Republican candidates are killing each other. So your comment - "March on to the Coronation, Gary and don't forget to kiss her ring!" has no bearing on my editorial. All that being said...I would prefer having this back and forth debate with you and Scott and others on my blog at http://www.thecontroversy.net/.../donald-trump-stop... Feel free to post your comments there.
GBD
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DeleteScott, the last line of my commentary answers your question. " A ban of every Muslim is not the answer." GBD
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DeleteGary, do you realize the more you and everyone talks about Trump, the more you are building his media presence and making him the center of all attention. Fulfilling his wishes and making him more popular. You have not said one new thing on your blog, only rehashed all the talking points of the Hillary bandwagon. Joseph Percevecz
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DeleteFacebook has an audience. "The Controversy" does not and begging us to "step into another room" to have this conversation won't help your blog. Joseph Percevecz
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DeleteThat's good, Joe. Because if Trump gets the Republican nomination, Hillary beats him BIG! GBD
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DeleteJoseph Percevecz then sent a photograph of Hillary Clinton on what appears to be a magazine cover. I am unable to post the picture here, but the printing on the mock cover reads: I MURDERED. I LIED. I STOLE. I WAS FIRED FOR ETHICS VIOLATIONS... AND THESE STUPID IDIOTS WILL STILL VOTE FOR ME...LOL
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DeleteGod help us if either moves into the White House! Joseph Percevecz
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DeleteThe Controversy is obviously not Facebook, Joe...but it does have an audience. And as for your comment, "God help us if either moves into the White House!"...I will agree with you regarding Donald Trump. But it is Hillary Clinton who will continue to make America great. As for your post of the picture above of Secretary Clinton, I won't even comment on such nonsense. But then...I guess I just did. GBD
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Deleteand yes this is where i will post my commentary as well. this way "all" can see and hear the discourse. Scott Getlin
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DeleteAgain, Scott, you must not have read my column carefully. I wrote in it..." There is no doubt that ISIS is a monumental threat to the United States and could possibly be perilous to Americans. And yes, Democrats and Republicans agree that ISIS is a barbaric organization that needs to be destroyed. But we cannot point the finger at Muslims. There are millions of peace-loving Muslims throughout the world. They live in countries that have nothing to do with terrorism or the radicalized bastards of ISIS and Al-Qaeda, who want to annihilate Americans." I continued with...."The radicals of ISIS and Al-Qaeda are terrorists. Not all American or non-American Muslims are terrorists. A ban of every Muslim is not the answer." I don't think you can justify your comment that I have "ZERO condemnation for the thugs and terrorists that have brought all this about." GBD
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DeleteTo be an ideologue on either end of the spectrum is foolishness. Gary is just parroting the left as Trump is pandering to the right. Americans mostly all live somewhere in the middle and unfortunately stay out of the fray and don't even vote, leaving the politics to be hashed out between ideologues! Just look at Congress and the Senate! Joseph Percevecz
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DeleteI don't "parrot" anybody, Joe. GBD
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DeleteOK, you just repeat the DNC talking points. Joseph Percevecz
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DeleteMy thoughts are my own, Joe. Whether the DNC or others agree with me or whether I agree with the DNC, so be it. Just as you would "repeat" or agree with the RNC. Good chatting with you, but I've got to go. Since you and Scott won't comment at The Controversy, please at least share a link to the blog with others. GBD
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DeleteGary, There are no facts, no words or arguments that will sway you from the errors of your thinking and writing and I am farther from the RNC than you will ever know. I won't play on your blog. I can't in good conscience encourage your blather any more than I want to encourage the foolishness on the far right. BOTH have to go away! Joseph Percevecz
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DeleteI don't "blather," Joe. I state my thoughts...I state facts...and I react to the "blather" of people like Donald Trump and some...and I did say some...other Republicans. Got to go. GBD
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DeleteGary maybe you could list some of your views that are not in total lockstep with the DNC. perhaps you could also articulate some of your ideas that are not a parroted form their talking points. try on some objectivity and imagine how you are perceived when you completely ignore the barbarism that has precipitated this mess and totally focus on a Donald trump and or Muslim bashing as the problem. surely you can see how one-sided and and blind you come across. Scott Getlin
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DeleteScott, you just don't seem to get my point of this particular commentary. I have, in the past, written about the "barbarism that has precipitated this mess." That was not the reason of this specific editorial. It was to crush the venom that Donald Trump has been spewing about banning Muslims and the violation of their rights. The United States of America was founded to allow for religious rights and freedoms of all people. Our country does not stand for the banning of anyone based on their faith. That is bigotry and prejudice. That was the meaning of my editorial and not to discuss the "barbarism." As stated in my column and repeated in an entry here earlier with you and Joe..."There is no doubt that ISIS is a monumental threat to the United States and could possibly be perilous to Americans. And yes, Democrats and Republicans agree that ISIS is a barbaric organization that needs to be destroyed. But we cannot point the finger at Muslims. There are millions of peace-loving Muslims throughout the world. They live in countries that have nothing to do with terrorism or the radicalized bastards of ISIS and Al-Qaeda, who want to annihilate Americans." I believe I have stated my case completely with this issue. But I appreciate you commenting with me. Happy Holidays to you...and to Joe, who has been part of this conversation today.
GBD
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DeleteGary it's a straw man argument. you are creating a problem where none exists. NO ONE is discriminating against a RELIGION. you can't seem to get that thru your head can you? no one is hating Muslims. people are afraid of the ACTIONS of the distorted few. do a photo line up of 99.999% of every act of terror committed in the last fifteen years Gary. what do they ALL have in common? notice any physical similarities? notice any common beliefs? Allah Akbar sound familiar to you Gary? now try and comprehend the FACT that we do not have vetting abilities to properly see who many of these refugees trying to come here are. no data bases..no records etc etc etc. now try and understand the FACT that terrorists are exploiting this and very possibly posing as refugees to infiltrate our borders. what does any country with half a f ing brain do at times like this? the real nut cases with all due respect are folks like you that seem to care more about offending the Muslim community than protecting your own country. my brother what id wrong with your thinking? are you a Patriot? you seem to have more of a problem with Donald Trump than you do the murderers killing your countrymen.
Scott Getlin
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DeleteAgain, Scott, you just don't get it. And apparently, you never will. First of all...if you think "no one" - to use your words - that "no one" throughout the United States of America is hating Muslims...you are sadly mistaken. Are you living in a cave? Racial profiling is running rampant in our country. As a Jew, I would think you would appreciate the horrors of bigotry, prejudice and anti-Semitism. Much of the same is being applied today towards Muslims. Secondly...and at the risk of being repetitious for the umpteenth time today...this particular commentary - DONALD TRUMP: STOP BASHING MUSLIMS - for www.TheControversy.net - was not written to blast the ideas or actions of ISIS and/or Al-Qaeda. So you have no clue of anything when you make an accusation saying, "You seem to have more of a problem with Donald Trump than you do the murderers killing your countrymen." That was not the subject of my December 19th, 2015 column. And not that I have to defend myself to you or anybody else, but I care deeply about my country and the safety and security of people of all races and religions who live in the United States. Thirdly...and finally...I completely resent you insulting me by writing, "The real nut cases - with all due respect - are folks like you that seem to care more about offending the Muslim community than protecting your own country." Where is there any "respect" in name-calling? I'm done talking. GBD
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Deletewell thank goodness for that!! maybe a little silence is best at this juncture would be best. all the best to you buddy! Scott Getlin
First, although I do not agree with anything that you have stated, I want to thank you for your well-written thoughts, which are clear and articulate. Despite the differences in our thinking, I respected your words up until you started to make accusations by saying such things as, "all of you on the left doing what you do so well, name calling and making up stories." Have you not ever listened to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and others who are the kings of "name calling and making up stories." I don't believe I do any "name calling" in a personal way. Oh I admit I have made such statements - as I have in my column above - such as "the lunacy they have been spouting...especially the maniacal rubbish being spewed by the GOP front-runner, Donald Trump." But I truly believe that to be an accurate statement. Secondly, as far as those of us "on the left" "trying to divide this country." You seem to forget that the "Divider-in-Chief" for 8 years was George W. Bush. And obviously, Congress has not been much of a "uniter" in working with President Obama. Hopefully, Paul Ryan, as the new Speaker of the House, will get more things accomplished with the President in 2016. But even though the spending bill was passed recently, as for anything else getting done, I'll believe it when I see it. But again, thank you for your comments. GBD
ReplyDeleteFirst, you can agree or disagree all you want with opinions but what I stated were Facts! Second, I never said that others don't name call, so I guess because Rush Limbaugh in your mind name calls its okay for you and the left to do it. Third, I find it interesting that when Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid disagreed with President Bush, they weren't wrong or not doing there jobs was President Bush's fault. But when John Boehner and Mitch McConnell do it when they disagree with President Obama it's them that are wrong. That's right I forgot everything is President Bush's fault, it rained today, it was George W Bush's fault. Maybe the left should stop blaming President Bush and realize that it was seven years ago and it's now on Obama and Clinton. Her foreign policy is what gave us ISIS and Iraq back in shambles. They failed with Iran and with Russia. But the GOP front runner and others aren't nice to her. Get real the left is destroying this Country and what it stands for. I am not a big fan of Trump but I will take him over Hillary or Bernie any day!
ReplyDeleteI believe - actually I am certain - that your so-called facts are not accurate. As for your reference to President George W. Bush, it was you who brought his name in to the conversation. I never mentioned him in my commentary. But when you stated "Finally I ask you, your friends on the left and the liberal media to stop name calling and stop trying to divide this country" that opened the door for me to remind you and everyone that President Bush was the "Divider-In-Chief" and most of what we Americans are living through today is indeed the fault of Mr. Bush. You accuse "the left" of "destroying this country and what it stands for." That's why with President Obama, the United States is in better economic shape today and better overall shape than during the Bush Administration, which sank the U.S. economically after President Bill Clinton left us in superb shape. And did you seem to forget about something called "9/11." That was under President Bush's watch. And you want Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton or Bernie Sanders? How sad. GBD
DeleteAs for you being certain, check your facts if you are honest you would admit your wrong (an honest lefty something new and different) what I stated are the facts. Second, read your own reply, you brought up President Bush not me “You seem to forget that the "Divider-in-Chief" for 8 years was George W. Bush”. It was the left that was unwilling to unite to help protect this country NOT president Bush. As for your comments about what President Bush did to our economy, remember a thing called 9/11 and what it did to our economy and then the housing crisis (caused by years of Democratic policies). Stop blaming President Bush for everything; remember the biggest threat to us now is ISIS which came to power thanks to Hillary Clinton’s foreign policy for the Obama administration. Remember the JV team.
ReplyDeleteBut you used the words..."Finally I ask you, your friends on the left and the liberal media to stop name calling and stop trying to divide this country." Since you claim that liberals "divide this country"...I stated that it was President Bush who was known as the "Divider-In-Chief" - which he was, not the Democrats. President Clinton left office with the United States in no economic crisis whatsoever. In fact, when Mr. Clinton moved out of The White House, the U.S.A. had a surplus of 123 billion dollars, which is the largest dollar surplus in history. President Clinton also is responsible for the United States - for the 1st time in American history - experiencing 7 consecutive years of fiscal improvement. And Mr. Clinton is the reason the U.S. had the largest debt reduction in history. It was George W. Bush who economically destroyed our country. You and other Republicans amaze me when you believe that not to be true. And ISIS was born out of Al-Qaeda. Al-Qaeda was responsible for 9/11. 9/11 was under President Bush's watch. Don't go blaming President Obama or Secretary Clinton. GBD
DeleteJust to set the record straight I never said the economy wasn’t good when Bill Clinton was President, it was. Much of that was due to Clinton but a lot was due to the Tech bubble and Newt Gingrich and the contract with America. Second, ISIS grew into what it is today because of the vacuum left in Iraq when President Obama and Secretary Clinton made the decision to fully pullout of Iraq without leaving any residual forces behind. We have left residual forces in many countries, we still have 10s of thousands of forces in Germany, Japan and South Korea but NONE left in Iraq, thank you President Obama and Hilary Clinton. So don’t blame Bush for ISIS they are thanks to Obama and Clinton.
ReplyDeleteLet's be fair. It was President Clinton who is responsible for the successful economy during the years of his administration. Period. As for ISIS, as I stated earlier, it grew out of Al-Qaeda. And the reason no forces were left in Iraq was because that was the deal, the arrangement, the promise that President Bush made with Iraq. So again, let's be fair. Don't blame President Obama and Secretary Clinton. GBD
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